March 20, 2018
Jon Robillard (Cercle 2) Amanda Laverriere, Vince Hurd (Cercle 3),
Brad Blomberg/Lenny Pappas Jr. (Davignon 3), George Tsoutsas (Eastside),
George Carter (My Friends), Jim Beard (Cercle 1),
Sue Novak (Secretary), Tom LeBlanc (Treasurer),
Lenny Pappas Jr. (Pres)
Both Jim Beard and Brad Blomberg represented their team for the vote on handicap criteria.
Absent: Ed Caswell (British), Jim Kelly, Steve Porter (Deerhead), Eric Milanese, John Laliberte (Davignon 2), Eric Bourgeois (V-Pres)
Location: Cercle National Club
1. Establish expectations for meetings – Lenny Pappas Jr. set some criteria for meetings.
a) During discussion everyone will have the opportunity to express their opinion.
b) Will go around the table and ask for input from everyone.
c) Take notes so that you can address specific points someone else made or raise your hand to address a specific point out of turn.
d) Do not talk over someone who currently has the floor.
e) No yelling/swearing/interrupting during the meeting.
f) Respect other’s opinions.
2. Treasurer’s report – Currently there is $6431.05 in the league account. An additional $10 was added tonight. Still waiting for British to pay player fees for the second half and Cercle 2 to pay for their two new players in the second half.
3. Set Criteria for handicaps – in an effort to alleviate some of the confusion over player ratings. The following criteria were accepted and will be posted on the site.
a) 3 Rating = Beginner or learning the game. May/may not shoot on a regular basis. May shoot in other leagues but maintains a low handicap. Can run 2 or 3 balls from the table but probably cannot run more than two pockets. Cannot play a reliable safe without advice. However, someone who has a high handicap in another league will not be this rating even though they are just learning the game.
b) 4 Rating = Knows the game, can probably run 3 – 5 balls from the table. Can demonstrate some ball control but may be inconsistent. May be able to run 3 - 4 pockets. Demonstrates some ability to play a safe without assistance. All new players, of “unknown” ability, will start at this rating; actual rating will be established at next captain’s meeting. At the first meeting, after the league starts, handicap changes will be retroactive.
c) 5 Rating = Can play the game. Can probably run 5 or more balls from the table. Demonstrates ball control. Able to run 3-5 pockets, may even be able to run six. Has a good grasp of playing safe.
d) 6 Rating = Can run 7 or more balls from the table. Demonstrate consistent ball control. Able to run 6 pockets but not consistently. Ability to play a consistent safe.
e) 7 Rating = Can run the table. Can play a consistent safe game. Has the potential to run six on a consistent basis.
4. Decide on Hall of fame inductee – The committee has chosen an inductee. The board also wanted to add Rick Proulx to the future nomination list. He meets the following three criteria – league captain/co-captain for five or more years, member of the league for at least 20 years, and placed in 3 or more singles/doubles tournaments. Don Longhi was also brought up, his name is already on the nomination list. Sue will bring several nomination forms to the next captains meet for future use.
5. Decide on Rookie of the year. Players that have not played in the league prior to this year have been listed on the roster in red. Sue suggested a Rookie of the year from these players and presented justification for her thoughts. This person was approved by all.
6. It was brought up that we should have a most valuable player for each team; everyone felt this was a great way to acknowledge players not normally recognized. Each team captain is to send Sue one name of a player they feel was their team’s most valuable player. These people do not need to be voted on by the league. These players will be recognized at the banquet for their contribution to their team.
7. Banquet Tickets - Green tickets are numbered and are player tickets; they are $10 refundable at the banquet. Red tickets are guest tickets; they are $15 and are non-refundable. Print name on both halves of the ticket. One half turned in to Sue, player/guest gets second half. Return money and tickets by May 1st. If you need tickets contact Sue.
1. Issue raised regarding “Time out” rule – a player is at the table and his partner is talking to the captain, partner then goes to player on table and gives shot advice – should this be considered a time out.
The current rule states: A limit of 15 “time out” is allowed per team per night of league play. “Time-outs” are those times when the captain and/or co-captain gives shot advice/instructions; it is not when the partner gives advice/instruction. Any player giving instructions from the sidelines is also considered a “time out”. A warning will be given on the first offense, on the second offense it will be counted as a “time out”.
The new rule will state: A limit of 15 “time out” is allowed per team per night of league play. “Time-outs” are those times when the captain and/or co-captain gives shot advice/instruction; it is not when the partner gives advice/instruction. However, if a captain talks with the partner and then that partner gives the player at the table shot advice, it will be considered a “time out”. Any player giving instructions from the sidelines is also considered a “time out”. A warning will be given on the first offense, on the second offense it will be counted as a “time out”.
2. DISTURBED BALL – a disturbed ball is defined as any ball that is moved from its last resting position by the player's body, clothing or equipment, or contacted while still in motion.
1) It is a foul if a player disturbs any ball on the table, while in the act of assuming, executing or abandoning the stroke with any part of the body, clothing or hand-bridge used to take the shot. The opposing player has the choice of putting the disturbed ball back, as close to the original spot as possible, or leaving it where it lies. The fouling player has no say in where the ball is replaced. However, if the ball is placed grossly out of position, reasonable discussion may occur.
2) It is a foul if the cue ball is intentionally or unintentionally disturbed (thought it was a scratch but it wasn’t). It will be ball-in-hand behind the head-string for the opposing player.
3) It is a foul if you disturb any ball that is in motion and results in loss of turn.
4) If the cue ball scratches and the shooter or teammate intentionally or unintentionally picks-up the one ball clearly over the foul line it is a foul. The opposing player/team will have the option of placing the one ball on the spot or putting it back, as close as possible, to where the foul occurred.
Raised concern: During the game a player stops the cue ball from scratching (see part 3 of rule). Does incoming player play it where it lies, or does he have cue ball anywhere behind headstring (see part 1 of rule). If the ball was going to scratch the original position would have been the pocket (scratch), therefore it should be ball in hand behind the headstring.
This was tabled from the last meeting, however after reading all parts of the rule in place, no further discussion is needed as both aspects of the question are addressed in the stated rule!
3. Lagging for break – proposed change was tabled from 2/21/17 meeting and never voted on again. The issue was observed several times during both the singles and doubles. The addition to the rule was approved by the board.
Current Rule States:
e. In order to promote fair play, the player competing in the lag should attempt to hit his ball at the same moment his opponent does.
e. Two lags will occur; one being a practice lag. Once a practice lag has occurred, both players MUST WAIT until their opponent has “set” before the official lag can occur.
f. In order to promote fair play, a player competing in the lag should attempt to lag at the same moment as the opponent. If near simultaneous lag does not occur, then it should occur before the opponent’s lagged ball makes contact with the rail. If the lag occurs after contact with the rail, then the person making the late lag will forfeit the break regardless of where the lag rests. If a player lags before his opponent is “set”, then the person making the early lag will forfeit the break regardless of where the lag rests.
4. Handicap Changes –
The following players will remain on the watch list to wait for Captain’s feedback. Jim Connolly (DH) – 4 (?down), Rick Campbell (C1) – 5 (?down), Roland Senechal (C1) – 4 (new), Bruce Lafavci (BA) – 4 (new)
Handicap raised - Arthur Tournidas (D3) – 4 (based on approved criteria)
Handicap decreased - Christos Kalantzis (ES) – 3, Cathy Quinn (BA) – 3 (justified by other captains)
No Change - Tom LeBlanc (C3) – 4 (based on approved criteria)
5. Banquet – update
Date - June 9, 2018 at Cercle National. (change needed as league president is out of town on 6/2)
Karaoke – we will have music available as well as karaoke ability.
Menu – catering by Mike Delisle and Jeff Yule.
3-rail challenge on both tables ($300/table) (same rules as last year). Use numbered banquet ticket for player order, drawn from bucket.
Gift cards ($400)
6. Next meeting April 17th (Tuesday before play-offs start) at 6:30 pm at either the Cercle or the Davignon depending on which club is available.
Meeting adjourned at 7:30 PM.